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On Thursday, a subcommittee hearing on a proposed IRS rule veered towards the absurd when Citizens for Tax Justice and the Obama administration were accused of supporting dictators, kidnappers and terrorists.

CTJ’s Rebecca Wilkins testified before a House Financial Services subcommittee in favor of a proposed rule that would require U.S. banks to report to the IRS any interest payments made to foreign account holders in the same way they report interest payments made to U.S. resident account holders.

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The U.S. government taxes interest payments made to U.S. residents but not those made to foreigners, so it never bothered to require banks to report those made to foreigners. But the IRS has proposed to change that rule in order to reduce tax evasion by Americans directly (to help identify Americans who evade U.S. taxes by posing as foreigners) and indirectly (by helping other countries enforce their tax laws so that they’ll help us enforce ours).

Wilkins faced off against three witnesses opposed to the proposed rule and a panel of lawmakers controlled by bank supporters. Chairman Spencer Bachus read a letter from the Florida delegation, which apparently is protective of its banks even when they facilitate tax evasion. Many people who live in unstable countries and have U.S. bank accounts, the letter argues, are “concerned their personal bank account information could be leaked to unauthorized persons in their home country government or to criminal or terrorist groups upon receipt from U.S. authorities, which could result in kidnapping or other terrorist actions…”

In other words, Bachus and the Florida delegation believe we should help all foreign individuals break their home countries’ tax laws because some of those countries have corrupt governments.

Never mind that the IRS would only hand over information to foreign governments in response to a careful, limited request under a tax information exchange agreement, as Wilkins calmly explained. Even more important, Wilkins explained, is that the rule in effect now actually helps criminals, corrupt government officials, terrorists and money launderers by allowing them to hide their money in the U.S.!

“America should not be a tax haven,” Wilkins told the panel.

Towards the end of her opening statement, Wilkins addressed her opponents directly:

“Chairman Bachus said, ‘Do we want to have blood on our hands, as a result of these rules?’ I want to tell you, the U.S. already has blood on its hands. For every dollar of tax revenue that is taken out of the governments of developing countries, it impairs the ability of those countries to provide health and safety measures, to feed its citizens, to provide sanitation, to provide health care, to provide military and police that are not corrupt. Every time we facilitate a dollar coming out of those economies, we have blood on our hands.”

Perhaps the most remarkable comment came at the end of the hearing from Bill Posey of Florida, who said to Wilkins, “Your advocacy for the government of Venezuela and, um, ultimately someday maybe Iran, North Korea and Cuba and the like, startles me, quite frankly. Most of us here try to put America first.” Posey then went on, not about putting Americans first, but about the plight of the people living under these dictatorships who hide their money in American banks. 

Wilkins had already explained that the IRS would not be required to provide foreign governments with the information it collects, but would be able to respond to a limited request under a tax information exchange agreement. Perhaps if Wilkins had been allowed to respond to Posey’s comments, she might have addressed some of his confusion, starting with his apparent belief that the United States has tax information exchange agreements with North Korea, Iran and Cuba.